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The United States of India!

May 29, 2009

Like my friend Kislay, I was also horrified to read a comment on Nita’s blog by a certain commentator about splitting up India.

Kislay’s views on the matter are rock solid and reflect my views. This post is an extension.

Let us for a second, imagine that we don’t have a country called India but we have smaller countries called Punjab, Tamil Nadu, and Maharashtra etc.

The commentator on Nita’s blog is most probably a well educated guy who can, thanks to his skill set, find a job even if India gets broken into many smaller countries. But on the other hand we have millions of people who are not educated and live only on hope. As we all know, it is always the poor and the illiterate who get discriminated against. What will they do if they are discriminated in their state and cannot leave the place? Every state has a group which is discriminated against. What will the people do if they don’t have India? As the famous Maximus says in the film Gladiator,

“We have a better chance of survival if we stick together”

 And that is the simple truth. Right from financial reasons to military, I believe that it is important that we stick together. All threats to “Our Nation” seem smaller once we look at India as a whole, whether it is terrorism, whether it is poverty, or the naxalite issue or religious fundamentalism. A unified country has a better chance of survival.

 Break up India into many smaller countries and pretty soon, you will be looking at the next Africa. We just need to look at our neighbors. Almost every single South Asian country is in some crisis or the other and I am going to stick my neck out and say that India is the light in the darkness. Yes, we have major problems, major issues but many people sleep peacefully thanks to the fact that we are a single country.

Many people might say that our religious, lingual, cultural, ethnic diversity is our bane. I say that it is our strength. The very idea of nationalism which has existed for a long time gained prominence only during our independence movement. For me personally, the concept called India is above all our petty differences. Yes, I might look and talk different from a person of another state but that does not mean that I love my country any less. I also look different from a person of my very own state, but in India, that does not make me an outcaste. The march to globalization can only happen when we have the financial, military and economic power to carry us forward and it can only happen if we are one!!!

It is that diversity which makes us what we are!!!!! The very basis on which we were built, the very basis of our genetic makeup!!!!!!! The very basis on which many people have given their lives for our cause!!!!

It is that diversity which allows me to wear a tag called “Indian” on my chest proudly!!!! And not a stupid yellow tag like in Taliban Afghanistan or Taliban Pakistan for being a Hindu.

If India did not exist, then many people would just be living. But thanks to the concept called India, the same people can now live with hope!!!! And that hope is certainly worth fighting for……

We have all heard many inspiring patriotic songs, but how many of us have heard these:

Jai Hindh” from an old Tamil film “Jai Hindh”:

Song called “Udayasooryan” (Rising Sun) by a group of young talented Malayalees about India.

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38 Comments leave one →
  1. May 29, 2009 1:36 am

    me first!! 😀
    OG: 😛

  2. May 29, 2009 1:52 am

    Well put OG. And I totally agree with you. Need to come back to this in a little while and put my full thoughts here. Brain doesn’t function. 😛
    OG: 😛 yokay!
    And by the way OG, I’ve heard both songs before. 😛
    OG: 😛 Congrats!

  3. May 29, 2009 4:38 am

    OG, what happened to you? Why have you suddenly become so serious?
    OG: 😛 just had to get it out 😛 I had a lot of time today and read most of the 250 comments 😛
    “Many people might say that our religious, lingual, cultural, ethnic diversity is our bane. I say that it is our strength.” I agree with you…Our diversity has allowed us to accept, live and work with people from various backgrounds otherwise we would all have been major bigots…As you so rightly said, everything is not hunky dory but imagine what life would have been like if each state was an independent country?
    OG: rightly said Bones “P

  4. May 29, 2009 4:59 am

    If some freaking goddamn sonovabitch is talking about splitting India… he knows nothing… needs to be shot… needs to be given a piece of my mind… sheeesh… surely he wasnt an Indian.. !!

    it gets on my nerves…
    OG: 😛 seriously dude!!!!!!!

  5. May 29, 2009 5:44 am

    Bravo OG!!
    thank you for this!
    I just knew that you would write something like this 🙂
    Will be back to read and comment in detail on this one and the earlier one as well 🙂

    til then let me say THANK YOU 🙂
    OG: 😛 Thanks for the support Indyeah!!! It means a lot…. seriously!!!!! do watch the videos indyeah, you will like em

  6. May 29, 2009 5:47 am

    *Thunderous applause*

    You rock OG . And “hell yeah” to what Maximus said . We need to do away with the notions that for unity and peace , you need a common language , religion or race . We need to teach the young Indians , that all you need is the will to be one , to tolerate and respect others .
    OG: 😛 agree dude!!! completely agree….. Yes, tolerance is what our “land” has been practising for ard 2000 years now…… It has to continue…………

  7. May 29, 2009 6:07 am

    Ha..ha..ha..

    See I told you that even when you become serious I will laugh. 😆
    OG: 😛 hahahahhahaha 😛 hmmmm 😛 maybe I should stick to humor 😛 but I had to get this out……. even though it is late

  8. May 29, 2009 6:11 am

    Now jokes aside,

    Very well said. You must have read my comments on Kislay’s too.

    I believe that as long as we let the diversity to thrive and don’t force uniformity, we will always be united.
    OG: yup read your views…..
    Yes Sololi, we need to inculcate a habit among the young that our diversity is our greatest strength…..
    did you watch the videos ?

    • May 29, 2009 6:14 am

      No I am scarred for life after watching your Rajender videos. 😆 I don’t trust you anymore when it comes to videos.
      OG: 😛 LOL!!! hahahahahha…. watch them. I promise, they are okay 😛 not rajender stuff

  9. May 29, 2009 6:14 am

    Before some troll picks up my comment I have to say that I still believe in Uniform Civil Code (UCC) because it is an excuse to maltreat women of certain community.

    OG: I feel very strongly about a uniform civil code Sololi….. I believe that it is essential for us indians…… I do not care about religion. I want a uniform civil code and as long as congress is ruling us, I dont see it happening….

    • May 29, 2009 6:22 am

      Actually even BJP didn’t have the guts to implement it. All parties just play with people’s emotions.
      OG: hmmm….. maybe…… They might not have the guts now…… but maybe in the future, we can implement it…….It will be difficult, but it needs the people to rise up to the plate…..
      I am strong believer of separation of state from religion…….. and there must be many like me…….

      • May 29, 2009 3:07 pm

        Yes, I think no party has the guts to implement the UGC or even reduce the reservations, for that matter.. Every party is too worried about vote banks..

        Separation of religion – how I wish it would happen!
        OG: 😛 hmmm

    • May 29, 2009 7:07 am

      Absolutely , a UCC is a must . We have to treated as equal Indians in every respect .
      OG: 😛 yes dude and I live with hope

    • May 29, 2009 2:07 pm

      I agree!! UCC is essential for any secular state.. how else can we be secular? :O
      OG: 😛 yup!!!!

  10. May 29, 2009 7:04 am

    What a post! Well said. It is the diversity among us that is keeping us together and making us a stronger nation.
    OG: 😛 yes mystery
    As you said, when we look at people from a different state, we speak a bit differently but we are not indifferent to them. We may be divided by a lot of cultural differences but all of us share that common feeling of an ‘Indian’ and it makes us proud that inspite of the differences in religion/language/region we all are together.
    OG: 😛 That feeling should be fostered!!! feeling of being an indian
    The dialogue in Delhi6 that ‘India works. The people in India make it work’. I just love it. Inspite of our differences we live in harmony and we have that feeling of brotherhood amongst all people and this is the best thing about us as a country.
    OG: yeah good dialog!
    Some sick people may want to have different countries out of it just because they have failed to understand the beauty of ‘Unity in diversity’.

    Once again, a very good post OG. I went to Kislay’s and read his views also..That commenter who ever it is, must come and visit all these posts and comments by us and then he will understand that be it a Hindi/malayalam/telugu/tamil/gujarathi or whatever language we speak, it has nothing to do with the feeling of ‘An Indian’.
    OG: 😛 Thanks for reading Kislay;s post. That is a brilliant piece!!!!

  11. May 29, 2009 8:18 am

    Accept it 200%. Acknowledge the fact that we indians take a dig at each others, mallus at tamils or gujjus at sardars..and some cannot even stand one another. Yet if we are divided african nations wud become model states :P. I wish the media plays a proactive role to get rid of stereotypes which makes one group dislike other…like southies being dark, north-easterners called chinks,UP+Biharis depicted as uncivilized pan chewing folks…silly sardars,stingy gujjus, crazy bongs…phewww. But then they are too bothered about TRPs.
    OG: 😛 yup, we love taking a dig at one another//// good point about media…. and cinema as well…. it plays a big role…..

  12. May 29, 2009 9:21 am

    On a side-note , have you guys ever wondered why Africa is in such a mess ? I will give you a clue , our benevolent white and english rulers . They divided the country as you divide cake , the straight lines in Africa’s map will tell you that , without giving any consideration to the kind of tribes that inhabited those pieces .
    OG: 😛 hmmm…. actually good that you brought it up……..

  13. May 29, 2009 10:03 am

    Brilliant OG! Loved this post. We need to love and respect and appreciate our differences, and thrive in our diversity! How many nations can boast of this many cuisines and clothing and languages, and terrains and festivals, and peoples, and most of the time we do all live together like Amar, Akbar, Anthony and Amardeep and Kaizad and any number more. …Because like Kislay also pointed out in that post, we can not all be clones of each other, and the only way to live together is to be a little less touchy and little more ‘bindaas’ and to look at our own faults instead of others.

    This has become a long comment, but what else will happen when you write such nice posts!
    OG: 🙂 Thanks IHM!!!!!! and I love long comments 😛

  14. May 29, 2009 2:11 pm

    Waiting for the videos to buffer *phew*!!
    OG: 😛 I love both the songs
    This was a brilliant brilliant post OG! And I agree 100% .. it is really a shame that educated and successful people talk about this.. while they r not willing to a wee bit to improve the circumstances..

    I mean if by division every problem would be solved why would Europe scramble to make a single European union?

    I hate such dickheads who think with their ass! Burr! ** excuse my language**
    OG: 😛 language excused 😛

  15. May 29, 2009 2:43 pm

    Dont need to be angry on the person who commented on Nita’s blog as people would think that smaller the land, better to govern.. 🙂 like we moved from joint family to nuclear family… but it will be like losing our individuality and peculiarness as we have lost now in family… the lining from the film gladiator is very apt machi… 🙂
    there is always better to survive if we stick together… and I never support dividing a country. Its a feel to be together with people differ in many a things
    OG: 😛 the problem is that once it startes…. calls for a separate state…..it will never stop!!!! every single person will have demands…. remember what happened in TN…. It was rightfully suppressed……

  16. May 29, 2009 2:54 pm

    OG,
    I understand your point of view but everyone is entitled to his own opinion. People know that smoking is harmful but then they do smoke. Don’t they?
    So, chill. Lakhs of people will have lakhs of opinions. You can’t fight each of them. And India is not all that rosy. I know that there are people like you who want everyone to be together but remember that there are people who kill people in the hope that we all will get our own lands one day.
    I am quite neutral on the topic. I don’t know how keeping the states together will be better than seperating them and vice versa.
    OG: 😛 I am sorry dost! I totally disagree with you on this one…..
    People can have views…. but it is those views which can change people……. TN was in the grips of a “Separation” cause ard 50 years back and thankfully it was suppressed……… but it all started with a view…. and I totally condemn such views……

  17. May 29, 2009 3:04 pm

    A big yay to this post. I remember having read that comment on Nita’s blog and remember getting disgusted by the idea. united we stand!
    OG: 😛 Thanks!!!

  18. May 29, 2009 3:09 pm

    OG – Fantastic Post! Agree with every line!
    Love this!
    ‘ It is that diversity which makes us what we are!!!!! The very basis on which we were built, the very basis of our genetic makeup!!!!!!! The very basis on which many people have given their lives for our cause!!!!
    OG: 😛 Thanku Thanku
    It is that diversity which allows me to wear a tag called “Indian” on my chest proudly!!!! And not a stupid yellow tag like in Taliban Afghanistan or Taliban Pakistan for being a Hindu.’

    If only we were proud of our diversity!
    OG: 😛 we will be!!!!

  19. May 29, 2009 8:45 pm

    whoa! someone’s gone all patriotic…
    OG: 😛 I was always patriotic 😛
    i agree with u tho.. we all have our problems. but the one-ness is what makes us unique. the division into religion, caste, sect and all that is what creates the problem.
    i mean why are we complaining about racism outside? its bad enuff within the country… whether the north making fun of the south, the south being wary of the north and the north-east being alienated from the entire country…
    think about it…
    OG: 😛 yeah good point!!! but India should win!!!! as simple as that!

  20. May 30, 2009 8:57 am

    Well said, Ajit!

    Indeed it is our diversity that is our strength! If only we could all really work on the diversity in an exemplary unified manner!!

    Jai Hind!
    OG: 😛 Jai Hind!

  21. May 30, 2009 10:39 am

    “We have a better chance of survival if we stick together

    Exactly!!
    OG: 😛 EGG-Jactly!!
    As we all know, it is always the poor and the illiterate who get discriminated against. What will they do if they are discriminated in their state and cannot leave the place? Every state has a group which is discriminated against. What will the people do if they don’t have India?

    OG these thoughts are EXACTLY mine too…

    Diversity yes ..that IS India’s unique feature…
    and I also agree that there will always be sections of India who will feel alienated..
    maybe because they are discriminated against..
    maybe because the Central or state governments failed them…(as we know they did)
    maybe
    maybe
    maybe

    ..But cant we look for solutions?
    OG: 😛 yeah Indyeah… while everyone is so ready to condemn, no one is looking for a solution

    What absolutely baffles me is why and how people who are well off and educated and more aware of why and how India needs to be one nation, speak in such divisive voices??
    OG: that is one thing which I cannot understand as well.. indyeah…. seriously…
    I mean of what use is all the B***** education and all the’ been there seen the world’ kind of attitude if one cant grasp the simple notion that unity is the way to go..?????
    OG: 😛 yes
    Not a forced unity mind you but a gentle gradual one, where despite diversity there is one common idea uniting a nation …

    what is that idea?
    the idea of India…
    While I agree that this idea cannot be defined and definitely CANNOT be forced on one..

    yet the idea needs to be in our hearts…
    OG: Our hearts need to speak in one voice….. only then will we improve

    How?

    By making sure that the next time we meet another Indian, we do not act biased or prejudiced or racist …
    OG: as we all know, it happens a lot…… yes, you are absolutely right Indyeah
    That even if the damn government is failing him/her at least we don’t…

    Tell me OG, if one doesn’t even know how to be an Indian, how will that person become a global Citizen?

    I agree with Vikram’s points on that post…

    I am not for jingoistic nationalism..
    Nor for the’ lets beat our chests’ and ‘give the battle cry for India’ nationalism

    no none of these…

    but I am completely for the concept of India…
    OG: yes, coz it is to our advantage!!

    When I say nationalism and patriotism it does not by default mean jingoistic nationalism..
    no NEVER that..

    Kislay’s words from this post of his
    http://kislaychandra.blogspot.com/2008/10/being-indian.html
    OG: that is a great post!!!
    Is it that hard to look for stories that are good for the Indian spirit?

    Ever heard of the word “illad”? Not Homer’s Iliad. I-L-L-A-D. This is the one word that I absolutely hate with every fiber of my body. This word stands for one of the major flaws with the mindset of the Indians (hailing from the states other than Karnataka, Kerala, TN and AP). This is like blasphemy for me. For those of you, who have not heard of it, an “illad” is the more affectionate term used to address (indirectly) the people of the Southern states, or “South-India”. It was quite a commonly used part of the vocabulary of the average Manipal-ite. Every time I hear it, I feel as if somebody used the invective of the mother-sister type for me. Even though I hail from a state up north, it stings. And the morons who drop it at the drop of hat from their mouths evidently do not realize how wrong and criminally insensitive they are. A few months ago, while dining in a restaurant, I overheard a girl saying” Delhi ke neeche sab south hai.” (Everything below Delhi is South for me). Sure you do bitch. Who the hell taught you geography, and history for that matter? I would go wild with ecstasy if the words “North-Indian” and “South-Indian” were officially banned.And while I am on the subject of name calling, I equally loathe and detest how Indians from the North-East get labeled as “Chinkies” . That is again , seriously fucked up . They are treated as if they are foreigners , no wonder some of them do want to secede from India .When will we stop seeing each other as illad’s, chinkie’s,bhaiyya’s,ghati’s and whatever-other-stupid-names-we-have ?

    the one thing that has gotten everyone riled up is the use of such disgusting words by that commentor on that blog.

    I mean really?
    Is that how educated people are supposed to write?
    Go screw yourself?
    OG: yup, those were harsh words……..what was he thinking….
    and NO..it does not have to do with the fact that it was the Bimaru states that were being abused..it has to do with the fact that this one individual thought that he being from a supposedly better off state(I am sure he counts himself as a state citizen rather than an Indian) thought that it was ‘okay’ to abuse some other less fortunate states.. and get away with it..

    anyone who opposed this comment of his was said to be spewing venom..

    Really?I want to ask him..

    and what were YOU doing MR So and so?

    spreading honey and sugar and all thats nice?

    Oh!wait!It was you who was spewing venom on that blog…

    all content and safe in your assumption that you were a ‘ liberal thinker’ and quite educated and ‘informed’….

    well..here is a news flash..!
    you are NOT!!

    and If I had to agree with someone’s words ..words that were logical and wise and had a SOLUTION..it would have to be Vikrams’ words on that post….

    I know we have differences, so do we all..

    The difference is that while you, the ‘liberal’ thinker tells a part of India to go and screw itself,
    the rest of us (like Vikram for example) have solutions…
    so excuse us while we search for solutions and you can carve a separate country all for yourself in the meantime…
    OG: hmmmmm

    OG sorry for that rant..
    but this is one topic that gets me fuming…

    actually I couldnt care less about patriotism as such…never really thought about it..
    but when someone says that some states can go and screw themselves….
    hell!I have a huge problem…

    for everyone who thinks like the esteemed , infamous Mr Commentor
    just remember today it is X, Y, Z state…. tmrw it could be yours…

    therefore the key is to worry for INDIA and not for ‘your’ state…
    OG: well said Indyeah….. 🙂 and this comment is official longer than the post itself….. why dont you write on this topic????

    • May 30, 2009 6:12 pm

      Why hmm?
      😛

      your OG=tish trademark is there in all your replies 😀

      *sigh*
      OG! 😛
      OG: 😛 indyeah, hmmm because I had nothing more to add…. you have said everything that I totally agree with all your point!!!!!!! I just had nothing more to add 😛 😛 😛
      I dont thing I could have said it any better 😛 😛 😛 😛 you are the best!!!!!

      • May 30, 2009 6:14 pm

        Will def do OG 🙂
        its lying as a half finished draft …too much anger in it…needed to calm down and write coherently thats why..
        plus so many people were writing their views that it was just really interesting, informative and plain amazing to read theirs 🙂

        and they all made me smile just as yours did 🙂

        You, Kislay and so many other friends are part of India too na?
        So thats cause for celebration 🙂
        OG: I have just sent you mail regarding this 😆 …. I would seriously love reading your views on this madam…. Hope that you do one soon…. coz words from “indyeah” are not mere words…….. 😛 yes it is a cause for celebration and we need to celebrate India

        • May 30, 2009 6:23 pm

          awww…sentimental kodak moment 😀

          *Indyeah gives OG a huge grin *

          Thank YOU OG 🙂

      • May 30, 2009 6:16 pm

        😆
        for that ‘you are the best’ OG is now my official best pal for life 😀
        😛
        OG: 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛

        • May 31, 2009 10:05 am

          I think you get your crown back. 🙂 THE COMMENT MOSTER IS BACK!!!!! 😀 😛

        • May 31, 2009 8:44 pm

          @Badz
          😛 😛

    • June 1, 2009 4:49 am

      *Please give me some Glucose. Tired after reading Indyeah’s comment* 😆
      OG: 😛 LOL!!!!!!!! hahahahahaha, I think Indyeah should provide us all with glocose 😛 😛

  22. May 31, 2009 2:05 am

    what we read on Nita’s blog is but a reality of the millions of voices that subscribe to the same opinion translated into stereotpe, pracitises, traditions, beliefs and the conflicts created there of. It is but a reality, we can’t go hiding away from it.
    If I start writing my personal story and the things that i had to go through having cut across religion, region,caste — you will hear the same sound. – for me this country is a respite because my family on both sides “do not think they are indians first”. their state comes first. their language come first. their culture comes first. their religion comes first. they see no “unity in diversity” and millions such families exist OG. i subscribe your view, but in practical life i faced and face many problems because people think otherwise !
    OG: hmmm, I seriously dont know what to say……. Anrosh!!!!…. I am happy that you are in america…. 😛 away from the issues

  23. May 31, 2009 11:32 am

    The secret behind india’s stengnth and culture lies on our ‘unity in diversity’.when ever some selfish people try to seprate us in the name of religion,cast,ethnic ,some serious and undesairable incidents happend.Allmost 150 years back becuase of our great grandfathers united despite of religion, ethnic, we are enjoying freedom today.So my point is we should be united despite of all the other factors.I agree with u’r point(diversity which makes us what we are!!!!!).afterall we are indians and we should be forever…..well wriiten post ajith….thanks for coming up with a good thought like this…. 🙂
    OG: Thanka machu…… Yes, it is our strength which we need to cherish…..

  24. May 31, 2009 1:34 pm

    How well said!

    I’ve left my note on Kislay’s blog as well, and I totally agree here. The greatness of our nation lies in this diversity we speak about. Like the yankees are so proud about the ‘ melting pot’ of cultures, they think their city is. Whew, what will you call India then? It is one colossal melting pot at that!
    OG: 😛 LOL seriously Aliya……
    India will never cease to exist as the India we know now. We need them BIMARUs, the North-East, the South, Kashmir… The world is awetruck by the way we existed for 60+ years. why not? smaller eurpoean nations are still breaking up into pieces, as we speak. So montenegro may break up into monte and negro tomorrow, but I guess India will still stand united. Oh, and we dont need the tag ‘ United States’ to exhibit our union, no…
    OG: 😛 I hope we remain united forever!!!!!!
    Nice write up boss..:)
    OG: 😛 Thanks

  25. June 1, 2009 3:06 am

    OG. This song says it all.

    All states make India. 🙂

  26. June 10, 2009 5:07 pm

    United States India ki jai 😉

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